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Which is easier, or cheaper?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:10 pm
by YJ
I found these on ebay. Hard to tell what they may end up bringing. If they stay reasonable and I were to aquire them. Would it be better (or even possible) to set them up for a SOA/leaf YJ deal, or to set up the YJ for coils and leave the axles alone?



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 662&rd=1,1

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:30 pm
by hssss
I have a spare TJ frame and body sides.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 5:48 pm
by yotacowboy
what's easier for you?

cutting a buncha junk off an axle and welding perches and shock mounts back on?

or...

cutting some junk off your rig and calculating out a proper 3 or 4 link, buying some links, heims/johnny joints, welding those up, then welding link mounts to the rig?

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:05 pm
by YJ
yotacowboy wrote:what's easier for you?

cutting a buncha junk off an axle and welding perches and shock mounts back on?

or...

cutting some junk off your rig and calculating out a proper 3 or 4 link, buying some links, heims/johnny joints, welding those up, then welding link mounts to the rig?

Good question. I build bikes, not Jeeps, so this is uncharted water for me.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:58 am
by hklvette
FWIW, I'd rather screw up a weld on a frame rather than an axle.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:16 am
by yotacowboy
i'm webwheeling a bit here, but you're looking at a decent learning curve with the 3 or 4 link stuff. not to say its impossible, but there's quite a bit more figuring and fabricating to get a well balanced, good performing setup. it's also pretty pricey. figure a minimum of $600-$1k to get a solid link setup with decent parts per end (front & rear will be closer to $1500-$2000, with cheaper parts like junkyard coils). I've sat down and fooled around with a link calculator, and priced out a simple 3 link with panhard for the back of the treehugger, and including airshocks, i was looking at almost $2k. granted, i wasn't going cheap or iffy on any materials (2" 3/8 wall lowers bigass johnny joints all around).

welding perches and shock tabs onto some axles isn't a huge deal. getting the caster angle right is not too difficult, either. your pinion might be in the dirt, depending on however the PO welded the knuckles on/rotated the knuckles.

perches and shock tabs are likely only a hundred bucks, too.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:09 am
by Steinberg
if I were you...

I'd hack it in underneath your stock leafs and run the shit until you decide you need more..... you may be perfectly content w/out the 4links and you'll be on the trail much quicker and cheaper.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:34 am
by shmoken875
pass drop hutch, you gonna flip a 300?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:40 pm
by Dieselram
umm don;t you already have a TJ....... Remove old axle,s bolt up... sell yj's Problem solved :flipoff2:

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:23 pm
by Fonger
shmoken875

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:34 am
pass drop hutch, you gonna flip a 300?

It's passenger side drop...You wouldn't need to flip it...Ya dig...

Any ways Hutch, buy them johnsons and cut all that junk off the passenger side axle and weld on some perches and shock mounts and slide it under the Jeep and we'll find a cheapo rear axle to put in it (Ford 9" is what I'm thinking to keep the bolt pattern the same). Then keep the rear steer axle for the later build aka linked setup or just sell it to re-coup some $$$, but if it were me I'd keep it for parts and stuff...

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:42 pm
by shmoken875
Fonger wrote:It's passenger side drop...You wouldn't need to flip it...Ya dig...
righteo forgot lol

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:48 pm
by Slinkey
saw those axles on ebay a couple weeks ago, guess they didn't sell the first time, the "buy it now" price was 8k, so I would assume the reserve is 7k or so... not gonna be any bargain basement deals here...

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:13 pm
by YJ
Slinkey wrote:saw those axles on ebay a couple weeks ago, guess they didn't sell the first time, the "buy it now" price was 8k, so I would assume the reserve is 7k or so... not gonna be any bargain basement deals here...
Ahhhh. Well in that case :flipoff2: that idea. I'm not going to spend as much on a set of axels. I'll just make the 44 & 60 I have, work.






















Well, I mean, Wilfong can help me make what I have work. :mrgreen:




I have to confess. I wasn't really interested in this particular set of axles. I just posted them up so no one else would see the matching 60F & 60R set I also found. After talking to the all knowing Slinkey, I think I'll just use what I have.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:19 pm
by YJ
Dieselram wrote:umm don;t you already have a TJ....... Remove old axle,s bolt up... sell yj's Problem solved :flipoff2:

Can't do it. I'm stuck on YJ's and CJ's. I'm just not going to pay what it would take to buy the CJ I would want, so a nice YJ is the next best thing.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:56 pm
by shmoken875
theres a guy on md creepers that has a 35 spline 60 with 4.56 and disks set up for a 4 link for 1500

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