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Jwlman wrote:
Mine are balanced with BBs. Seems fine to me but my ties also never had weights surrounding more then half a wheel :flipoff2:
If your wheel is that out of balance the rim may be bent.

Yes it works, TwoFace runs 75 w/ no issues. Clay did a write up on it in our tech forum I believe.
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MILLER wrote:
Jwlman wrote:
Mine are balanced with BBs. Seems fine to me but my ties also never had weights surrounding more then half a wheel :flipoff2:
If your wheel is that out of balance the rim may be bent.

Yes it works, TwoFace runs 75 w/ no issues. Clay did a write up on it in our tech forum I believe.
They were brand new rims when they got balanced that way but I guess that doesnt meen they can't be bent
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do the pellets make alot of noise when you are slowing to a stop and they fall down onto the rim?
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Never used them for balancing a wheel but I have a younger cousin who has an airsoft gut and being that the "pellets" are rubber I would think they wouldnt create any noise

Even what little bit could be made by dropping a couple hundred rubber balls about 10" would be drown out by the roar of 37" MTR's
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Either plastic airsoft pellets or metal BB's will make a little noise as you come to a stop. It's noticeable, but not bothersome.
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the main idea behind using airsoft plastic pellets is that they won't damage painted or powdercoated rims when they bounce around.

when you come to a stop with the airsofts, it'll make a whoooshing sound, kind of like a truck with airbrakes...

I ran about a pound in each tire i believe, and my iroks were smooth up to 85 or so.

using lead shot will eventually leave a fair amount of lead dust in the tire, which is not that great to be breathing if you ever swap tires or rims or whatever.

regular old copper clad bb's will eventually tear up the interior of your rims.
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Yeah they make noise, def. noticable without doors, but I wouldnt worry about the noise, they are hard plastic, not rubber. But it is when you stop that you do hear it (it adds to the scaring of the NOVA yuppies, but is not that bad). I think the airsoft bb's work better because they are lighter. They will go to the unbalanced part of the tire faster because less centrifugal force is needed for the less dense material of the plastic bb. There is a compound that is made for big rigs, kind of a loose plastic sand they use to balance their tires. Cant remember what it is called but from what I hear, airsoft bb's are cheaper.
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MILLER wrote:Yeah they make noise, def. noticable without doors, but I wouldnt worry about the noise, they are hard plastic, not rubber. But it is when you stop that you do hear it (it adds to the scaring of the NOVA yuppies, but is not that bad). I think the airsoft bb's work better because they are lighter. They will go to the unbalanced part of the tire faster because less centrifugal force is needed for the less dense material of the plastic bb. There is a compound that is made for big rigs, kind of a loose plastic sand they use to balance their tires. Cant remember what it is called but from what I hear, airsoft bb's are cheaper.
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A company called "inovative balancing" makes ceramic balancing bbs, I'm running them in my 35s and they seem to work pretty well. you can't hear them at all and they're not supposed to break down. kind of alot of $$$$ tho
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Actual SAS progress was made tonight.
I made my front spring hanger
2x2x.25 for the cross member
and 3.5x3.5x.25 for the hangers.
I also sank a 2" reciever into the front

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here is how I braced the 2" reveiver

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gusset...

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mounting options....stock or 1inch forward

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And I cut the holes for my shackle tubes. That was just a blast.

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Now I have to leave for the rest of the week/weekend to go to MD. But when I get back the IFS comes off. Any one got a torch??
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shmoken875 wrote:
MILLER wrote:IF you can mount them yourself (they're a bitch, the sidewalls are ubber thick) you can throw some airsoft bb's in them, I am running 37x14.5 Iroks with a pound of bb's in each and they are fine at all speeds. I tried lead shot and I dont think they work as well. Takes too much centrifugal force to get them to go where they need to go to balance them. I guess you could hand the tire shop guy bags of bb's and tell him to put them in the tire.
sorry to go off topic for a post stinson, but that really works ok miller? I've heard yes, I've heard no, but I've always had my doubts. my 35s need to be rebalanced and I might like to try airsoft this time around.
obviously, not enough doesnt work ... and oddly enough, too much weight doesnt work either. the rear tires in the jeep have 11oz of BBs in them each and they balance fine .... all my vibes are from the front end :flipoff2:
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Looking awesome man!
Stinson wrote:Any one got a torch??
I do! It's at Adam Krantz's in C-burg, but we can work out getting it to you if you need it.

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well its either that, or im going to go at it with the grinder. 10 wheels and it should be on the ground :eek:
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The best way to remove Toyota brackets is to grind most of the way through the welds and bend the brackets back and forth till they break off. Or chisel them til they come off, air chisel helped immensly. You will have very little welds to clean up. However, the torch will help to cut the bracket apart so you are bending only one side of the bracket. A warning, it took me, Leach, and Whittaker 8 hours with two angle grinders, and a metric ass ton of cut off wheels, an air chisel a couple of 4lb sledges, and a cold chisel to get all of my brackets off.
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Post by Rockn4x4 »

Plasma is nice to. Be prepared to never want to see or use a grinder again. I cut everything off a couple inches from the frame to get it out of the way and then went back for a cleanup job. Have fun!
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