Swap early year Bronco 44 into TJ

Post by **JPN High** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:55 am

Anyone swap a early year bronco 44 front into a TJ. I got most of the work done except the brakes. Just wondering if anyone had any information to pass on.

CRAWL3R TJ · Post by **CRAWL3R TJ** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:13 am

I installed a HP44 from a 77 f-150 in my TJ. Should be pretty similar. What are you wanting to know?

Post by **JPN High** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:37 pm

Well right now the axle has a 6lug bolt pattern (he had chevy rotors with chevy clipers and such). I am wanting to convert it to a 5 on 5.5 and so I just ordered a new hub and rotor kit from broncograveyard. Will the ford rotor and hub work with the chevy calipers and back plate?

CRAWL3R TJ · Post by **CRAWL3R TJ** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:57 pm

Yes. That is what I am running on mine. Make sure you have the small bearing spindle and the Ford hub/rotor will slide right on. The bearings you will need are Timken Set 37 and 45, which are the stock Ford wheel bearings.

I am using a Chevy 1/2 ton caliper on mine from a 1975 Blazer. This caliper use a larger bango bolt than the Jeep. I believe a Waggy caliper will also work and uses the same size bango bolt as the stock TJ. It didn't matter to me since I had to order new brake lines anyway due to mine serving as the limit strap so I just went with the larger banjo bolt rather than trying to find another caliper.

Post by **shmoken875** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:02 pm

CRAWL3R TJ wrote:Yes. That is what I am running on mine. Make sure you have the small bearing spindle and the Ford hub/rotor will slide right on. The bearings you will need are Timken Set 37 and 45, which are the stock Ford wheel bearings.

I am using a Chevy 1/2 ton caliper on mine from a 1975 Blazer. This caliper use a larger bango bolt than the Jeep. I believe a Waggy caliper will also work and uses the same size bango bolt as the stock TJ. It didn't matter to me since I had to order new brake lines anyway due to mine serving as the limit strap so I just went with the larger banjo bolt rather than trying to find another caliper.

a waggy caliper will work but it is a bigger banjo bolt, I used later model calipers and they were 11mm, I had to drill out the yj lines that I had put on.

Post by **JPN High** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:55 pm

Cool. I am going to gather some parts and my hub and rotor should be in Radford on Friday. Going try everything out.

Post by **Steinberg** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:08 am

the early bronco 44's came with 260x u-joints. they're smaller than the 297x that you see in most 44's and prolly in your TJ's D30 as well.

Post by **JPN High** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:28 am

Yea, it is upgraded to the 297 and has chromoly axles in it with the stock shafts and joints as spares just to get me off the trail. I just ran into the problem that the upper control arm is at too much of an angle so now i need access to a welder. Everywhere in Radford wants to charge 60 bucks for just one bracket to be welded. Anyone have a shop? Love working on the Jeep with no connections to a welder.

Post by **jonesy** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:31 am

JPN High wrote:Yea, it is upgraded to the 297 and has chromoly axles in it with the stock shafts and joints as spares just to get me off the trail. I just ran into the problem that the upper control arm is at too much of an angle so now i need access to a welder. Everywhere in Radford wants to charge 60 bucks for just one bracket to be welded. Anyone have a shop? Love working on the Jeep with no connections to a welder.

if you can get it to bburg, we can run the leads outside and stick it ....

Post by **JPN High** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:06 pm

shmoken875 wrote:
CRAWL3R TJ wrote:Yes. That is what I am running on mine. Make sure you have the small bearing spindle and the Ford hub/rotor will slide right on. The bearings you will need are Timken Set 37 and 45, which are the stock Ford wheel bearings.

I am using a Chevy 1/2 ton caliper on mine from a 1975 Blazer. This caliper use a larger bango bolt than the Jeep. I believe a Waggy caliper will also work and uses the same size bango bolt as the stock TJ. It didn't matter to me since I had to order new brake lines anyway due to mine serving as the limit strap so I just went with the larger banjo bolt rather than trying to find another caliper.
a waggy caliper will work but it is a bigger banjo bolt, I used later model calipers and they were 11mm, I had to drill out the yj lines that I had put on.

I will be alright if I bore out the TJ lines to fit the bigger bolt? I would love to use the extended brake lines that I have, just bore it out and put the bolt through. This would be better than buying new brake lines for sure. Let me know.

Post by **shmoken875** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:14 pm

JPN High wrote:
shmoken875 wrote:
CRAWL3R TJ wrote:Yes. That is what I am running on mine. Make sure you have the small bearing spindle and the Ford hub/rotor will slide right on. The bearings you will need are Timken Set 37 and 45, which are the stock Ford wheel bearings.

I am using a Chevy 1/2 ton caliper on mine from a 1975 Blazer. This caliper use a larger bango bolt than the Jeep. I believe a Waggy caliper will also work and uses the same size bango bolt as the stock TJ. It didn't matter to me since I had to order new brake lines anyway due to mine serving as the limit strap so I just went with the larger banjo bolt rather than trying to find another caliper.
a waggy caliper will work but it is a bigger banjo bolt, I used later model calipers and they were 11mm, I had to drill out the yj lines that I had put on.
I will be alright if I bore out the TJ lines to fit the bigger bolt? I would love to use the extended brake lines that I have, just bore it out and put the bolt through. This would be better than buying new brake lines for sure. Let me know.

don't know if it's recommended, but I've heard of it being done before, and mine don't leak

Post by **JPN High** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:29 pm

Good deal, going to try that tomorrow and save some money. Thanks for the help.