WTB: Big Bad Bowtie

Post by **Fonger** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:14 pm

Looking for a tbi so early 90's or newer 454 Chevrolet Big Block. Must have entire wiring harness and computer, preferably still in a truck. You guys keep your ears to the ground and help me find one pretty cheap.

Thanks,

Wilfong

Post by **hklvette** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:17 pm

keep an eye on the VT surplus auctions...there are a bunch of those running around campus.

Post by **Arya Ebrahimi** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:46 pm

Not TBI, but maybe this would work?

http://www.marylandcreepers.com/MCForum ... 18&t=37312

Post by **Fonger** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:14 pm

Nice motor, but crap that's high. Could almost buy an entire truck for that.

Good hit, keep 'em coming.

Post by **jac6695** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:59 pm

That isn't too bad of a deal. What is it for? You really might want to consider a 6.0 liter. You can pick them up with trans and harness/computer for around $1800-2000 and will be near equal power to a TBI 454 with better fuel economy.

Post by **alk1174** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:43 am

http://www.carcraft.com/projectbuild/11 ... index.html

After reading this the other day it makes the 6.0 sound temting.

Post by **Arya Ebrahimi** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:17 am

I gotta agree with these guys Adam. The Gen III motors are getting fairly cheap, and the simplicty and power they make is fantastic.

If you decide to go that route and need some help with the electrical/tuning my uncle can help you. He's running a modded(heads/cams/headers) LS1 in his play car and and another less modded LS1(headers) in his 'vette. He's got the HP Tuner's software and can reprogram whatever you want. Just an FYI.

Post by **Fonger** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:14 am

Yeah, I'm looking at options to put in the CJ. I've got a 302 just kind of tossing the ideas around.

Maybe the 6.0 is the way to go.

YouTube · Post by **TerryD** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:12 pm

Fonger wrote:Yeah, I'm looking at options to put in the CJ.

4.3L Vortec from 97+ Blazer or S-10 is the way to go. Plenty of power, EFI, really good cylinder head, lightweight. What happened to the Dual-Jet?

Post by **Fonger** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:34 pm

Dual-Jet is still in the works, but it's a band-aid fix at best. 4.3L not enough motor. I've got a 3.8L and it's not much smaller. I need ignorant power here.

Post by **VerticalTRX** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:23 pm

Fonger wrote:Dual-Jet is still in the works, but it's a band-aid fix at best. 4.3L not enough motor. I've got a 3.8L and it's not much smaller. I need ignorant power here.

So I assume more tire, axle, etc are in the works too?

Regardless, unless you're going really big (like 40"+ and tons) I would personally look for a small block. I just can't imagine having the weight of a big block in anything less. While I'm not a Chevy man I can tell you that it's easy to build a SBC to make as much power as a stock BBC. ~300hp/400lb-ft (which is more than either a stock EFI 460 or TBI 454) is about what my 351w makes and is easily obtainable in any small block. With that being said, a 6.0 might be a good option, although I don't know enough about them to give much input.

Post by **Fonger** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:59 pm

VerticalTRX wrote:
Fonger wrote:Dual-Jet is still in the works, but it's a band-aid fix at best. 4.3L not enough motor. I've got a 3.8L and it's not much smaller. I need ignorant power here.
So I assume more tire, axle, etc are in the works too?

Regardless, unless you're going really big (like 40"+ and tons) I would personally look for a small block. I just can't imagine having the weight of a big block in anything less. While I'm not a Chevy man I can tell you that it's easy to build a SBC to make as much power as a stock BBC. ~300hp/400lb-ft (which is more than either a stock EFI 460 or TBI 454) is about what my 351w makes and is easily obtainable in any small block. With that being said, a 6.0 might be a good option, although I don't know enough about them to give much input.

Funny you say that 'cause that's exactly where I'm going with this. I've maxed the ability of the rig in it's current state. Time to go big.

Post by **jac6695** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:36 pm

Oh, for the CJ, find yourself a 5.3/4L60E with harness and computer. I have seen them no lie for as low as $800.00/complete in a lot of places. Easy 350 HP, easy wiring, low first gear in the 4L60 (or stick with the manual of choice). Another option now is an early LS1. All aluminum and getting cheaper (right in the $2000.00 range).

Post by **Arya Ebrahimi** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:14 pm

Found this one:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=695032

But I really think a Gen III GM V8 is what you want/need

Post by **hklvette** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:15 pm

Any particular reason you don't want to build up the 302? I imagine you'd be less $$$ into it using what you already have.