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You going to get rid of the Bilsteins? Do you have the details on them?
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These are the fronts, so they are actually a strut. They are the 5100 series that usually have a moveable lower spring plate to allow you to lift the front up to 2" in 0.5" increments.

Mine are fitted with a ToyTec coil-over conversion that replaced the lower spring plate with a threaded collar and adjustable spring seat. This was done by Fat Bob's Garage in UT when the guy who owned them before me blew out his MK84s at an event out there. I'm guessing they didn't have the proper spring (12" 600lb/in) in stock and reused his 14" 600lb/in springs. This about maxed them out at static ride height. It also causes them to top out a lot and is limiting my down travel.

On top of that, the 5100s are valved for stock spring rates (around 470lb/in from what I've found) so the front is quite bouncy with the 600lb/in on there. I should have gotten the a Radflos to begin with.
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My front Radflos arrived last week and I took an evening after work to install them. Man what a difference in ride quality! It needs a little adjustment, I need to get a 0.5" spacer and extended studs for it to move my travel window down a touch. I screwed up and sold my spacer too quickly.

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In other news, got some MagnaFlow cats on the way to replace my stockers before they implode and do some engine damage.

Also still waiting for my Shrockworks bumper to arrive.
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My bumper came in last month but I have not had a chance to install it. My big truck needs the brakes worked on and the steering rebuilt. I'm in the middle of that now and hopefully I'll be finished with it by the weekend.

Then I can start installing my bumper and winch and a few other little projects that need done before winter.
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Still falling behind. Did go on a trip with some guys from the Xterra group on FB. That was a good time! Only 3 of us showed up but we made the most of it.

Three of us went out to Flag Pole yesterday and ran the Union Springs leg from the bottom up. This was my first time going up this route and it was a lot of fun! It's much more challenging in this direction and I really enjoy the technical trails so I was right at home out there.

We met up at Sheetz in Harrisonburg to fuel up and get ready for the trail. Only three of us showed up. Chris, David and myself. We headed out around 10:45. At the creek crossing, we stopped to air down.

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We rolled along up the gravel road pretty good and when we hit the muddy field at the trail head, Chris took the lead. His Taco with the long travel suspension just soaked up the trail and he just sailed along in front. He'd stop and let us catch him up regularly.

Chris was the first to try the rock ledge at about half way up.

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As he was crawling up on it, we noticed that he was just pulling with his rear wheels. We checked it out and found the passengerside outside CV shaft was busted. With a little momentum and proper tire placement, he bounced right up it. I was next, followed by David. The trails were just damp enough that you slid and spun a little on every obstacle but with some good spotting from Chris, we both walked right up it.

We stopped in the next field to check out Chris's truck better and try to come up with a solution.

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We had to use David's factory jack and firewood to scotch up the Taco to get the tire off so we could work in there.

Image20180825_131931 by TerryD, on Flickr

The outer joint and completely grenaded and we were able to disassemble the shaft in place rather than having to pull the wheel bearing or knuckle apart. With that out, the tools cleaned up and lunch taken care of, we headed on up the trail.

Image20180825_142040 by TerryD, on Flickr

We were so near the top that Chris decided to push on rather than turning back. We were confident we would be able to get him up the washouts at the top of the trail with some good spotting.

I took the lead out of the field headed to the top. We figured that if I could get up first, I could tow Chris up if he couldn't make it.

My trip up the hill was pretty interesting. I wound up doing some three-wheeling on the last ledge and had to bump it a couple times to get it to carry through.

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Chris came up next. He made it to the last ledge but his rear slid into the rut and we couldn't get him lined back up so he started backing down to make another run at it. Somewhere between the field and the hill climb, he had cut the passenger side front tire and as he backed down, it came completely off the rim.

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He backed back down to the flat spot at the bottom of the hill where it would be a little safer to change the tire. Chris started getting his spare out while David and I were jacking up the truck and building another firewood jack stand. During this adventure, several groups came by. Two Jeeps, one going in each direction, a group of guys on motor cycles, a group on bicycles and even a bear hunter.

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Two guys on motor cycles made a wrong turn at the top of the hill and came down by us then realized they had gone the wrong way and came back by. On their way back by, they stopped and asked if we had air. One of their rears was almost flat. Chris drug out his compressor and aired the guy up while we were finishing up getting his truck back on the ground.

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After that, we decided to get David to the top first, then we could both focus on getting Chris up. I spotted him up the same line I used and he was up quickly.

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With David at the top, we all talked it over and decided that since Chris had more wheel base and much more travel, we could probably send him up the middle of the trench if he could get lined up on it at speed.

His first attempt looked like it was going to be perfect but right at the top, his back end slid into the notch again. He backed back down a bit and tried it a second time and this time his rears held. He was able to use the momentum and rear locker through the one section he lifted a rear tire on and was up in a flash.

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Once we were all at the top we decided to head across to Reddish Knob. David and I were both going South and that would put us out closer to Staunton and Chris could ride the paved road out from the knob to 33 and back into Harrisonburg since he was going to be heading North. After a quick stop off at the top of Flag Pole Knob since it was David's first time up there, we made our way out to Reddish Knob. That road is pretty nice and going was quick and smooth.

At the pavement we ran into a group headed off the mountain toward 33 and Chris followed them. David and I headed on toward Reddish Knob, after a short detour because I apparently can't read my own maps..... The road up to Reddish Knob is a single lane paved. I mean seriously single lane. For most of it, both my mirrors were clipping brush. Along the way, we went plenty slow. In one blind curve, a Silverado heading in the opposite direction almost ended my day. Luckily I was being super cautious and was able to ditch the X and he swerved just in time to miss me.

We took our time and in the really bad curves, I blew my horn a few times to hopefully warn oncoming traffic. After meeting a few more vehicles, we made it to the top where the old fire tower used to stand.

Image20180825_164526 by TerryD, on Flickr

We stretched our legs for a bit and then headed on toward West Augusta on the ridge road. Just under the lookout, the road turns back to gravel/dirt but it was pretty smooth and we were making ok time. At one point we spooked a coyote out of hiding and he ran up the trail in front of me for a short stint. I didn't manage to get to my phone in time to snap a picture of him.

After a bit, we met a blue pickup coming the other way and he told us there was a biker up ahead that had gotten separated from his group and was headed back off the mountain. David and I talked it over on the radio and decided if we ran into him, we'd at least offer to help if we could. As luck would have it, he did indeed need help. When we found him, he was pushing his bicycle. Just after he met the guy in the pickup, he'd wrecked his bicycle and blew out the rear tire. His attempts to repair it had not worked so he had resigned himself to push it off the mountain.

We stopped and offered him a ride he gladly accepted. I strapped his bicycle to my roof and my daughter cleaned him out a seat in the X. It was a good 20 minute ride from where we picked him up to where his truck was parked. It was around 6 when we got there, it would have been well after dark by the time he got there if he'd had to walk off.

From there, we wound our way back to 250 where we both aired up. I had been running 18psi all day and I didn't think it was a good idea to drive the 30 minutes to Waynesboro at those pressures. It took about 20 minutes to air us both up with my little compressor. My daughter had asked if we could eat supper at Buffalo Wild Wings and the one in Waynesboro was the closest to where we were.

David joined us along with his dog Tiga (tye-gah). We left there around 9:20 headed home and made it back to the house at 10:30.

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nice! cant wait to see your xtera with the bumper on, also thats a nice LT taco
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I'm looking forward to getting it on there myself. Maybe I can take this upcoming weekend at get it done. Once the bumper and winch are on and tested, I want to run Potts one weekend before the weather gets cold.
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Nice trip report. Still want to take the SD up there.
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I was going to ask if you thought a full size would make it ok.
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alk1174 wrote: Mon Sep 10, 2018 3:35 pm I was going to ask if you thought a full size would make it ok.
Through Flag Pole? I don't think you'd have any issues. It's a little tight in places but no worse than Pott's. Those pictures are from the Union Springs branch. If you go up the Switzer lake trail, there's only really one spot you need 4wd, and that's if you take the rough line. I just run 4 low so I don't cook the transmission.

If you come in from Reddish Knob, you can bring in a car. In fact the were two mini vans camping in the field on top back in June when we rode through. It's still a nice day trip. Let me know if y'all want to go! I'd be up to run it again.
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Sam took his F250 through there and I heard it's no issue. That's all I got to take either way :mrgreen:
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My Shrockworks bumper arrived back in July, within a few days of us leaving for the beach for a week. I managed to get it shoved into the garage for safe keeping until I had time to install it and my winch. Thanks to the kids and wife starting back to school, traveling for different events, working on other projects and the weather last week was the first good chance I've had to get the work done.

After work Wednesday evening, I pulled the front end off the X and got the new Shrock mounts installed. I also opened the winch control pack relocation kit and began installing it. I took a personal day Thursday since I'd had enough of work for the week, it was supposed to rain most of the weekend, and I was headed down to visit my Dad for a couple days Saturday.

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On Thursday morning, the first thing I did was drop it off the pallet and scrape up some of the powder coating on the grill guard bar and recovery points. Oh well, it's for off-road use and not a show vehicle anyways... Using the engine hoist, I set it on saw horses to install the winch.

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Shrock uses some 3/16" or 1/4" thick metal to brace up the winch mount points. This made the standard bolts that Warn includes too short to properly secure the winch. I used the longer (40mm) bolts that would usually secure the lower mount and Hawse fairlead in the top holes and went to Tractor Supply for some longer (50mm) bolts to mount the fairlead and secure the bottom of the winch.

Also, in the Shock instructions, it says to cut and bend the section of the grill support brackets back to clear a winch. Using an integrated winch like the Zeon required a good bit more work. I cut the entire lower portion of the mount off and just left the flat top where the push rivets go in. It's flimsy when not bolted to the truck but is plenty sturdy once it's reinstalled. I'll have to try to get pictures later.

The D shaped holes in the top of the bumper were large enough to route the cables for the winch solenoid through. I modified the solenoid pack mount plate to have two holes on the front of the bumper and the back two I moved in toward the control pack and slightly together to make it fit the top of the bumper properly.

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The battery cables are routed through the hole in the brace next to the fog light on the right side and up behind the headlight. I put some wire loom over them to protect from scrapes and gouges. To attach the positive, I drilled the holes in the fuseable link and factory cable out to 3/8" to fit on a marine terminal and used a flanged nut to secure it. I don't have anything to crimp 4ga wire right now, so I just drilled the threads out of a 1/4" nut and used the clamp bolt on the negative to secure it for the time being. I will go back and put on the proper matching marine terminal as soon as I can crimp a lug on the negative battery cable.

There were several missing push rivets so it had to spend a day without it's grill till I could get by NAPA and buy a bag of them.

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And here it is put back together and ready to use (minus the negative battery terminal for the time being).

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Looks good dood. I like how the winch is within the bumper housing.
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Thanks! I'm really happy with how it turned out. The approach angle was great at Potts last weekend. Gearing and at least one locker are next on the agenda.
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I replaced the steering rack bushings that I wasted on Pott's. It drives a good bit better now. I also picked up a full set of Moog TREs to replace my 180k mile stockers.

I've still got to fix the missing bolt heads on the slider and gas tank skid though. Ran out of decent weather this weekend.
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